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Questions and Answers (Q & A) about the New Bankruptcy Law Amendments (continued)
63. ETHICS: How much investigation is “reasonable investigation”
to keep consumer debtor attorney from being held personally liable?
a. Will take 10 years of case law to find out.
b. Consumer bky attorneys should ask the Court local rules to state
if you have x, y, z, this will be enough; Court by local rules should
do that
64. ETHICS: Which debtors will be particularly dangerous for consumer
bky attorney?
a. Debtors that are not W-2 employees, because they work 1099, run
their own businesses, because its very hard to double check what the
income of the non W-2 employee is, other than by getting copy of their
tax returns. Don’t take one if they haven’t filed all
returns.
65. ETHICS: If the consumer debtor attorney is held personally liable
for an inaccuracy in the consumer bky debtor’s schedules, petition,
statement financial affairs, per 11 USC 707(b)(4)( C), or because the
attorney knew something was incorrect, contrary to 11 USC 707(b)(4)(D),
what is the amount/measure of damages.
a. Not specified in 707(b)(4)( C ) or (D); will have to be developed
by caselaw, probably the same damages as for Rule 9011 violation,
which includes paying other sides attorneys fees and costs, plus possibly
additional damages to deter.
66. ETHICS: Are there techniques debtor attorneys
for consumer debtors should employ to reduce your exposure
to being personally liable to pay sanctions if turns out
the debtor’s schedules or petition or statement of financial affairs
are inaccurate? [??Rule 9011 sanctions**?]
i. Yes, do a “reasonable investigation under the circumstances”
before filing the consumer debtor bky case. Get a credit report on
each client, each client in CA can get a credit report free once a
year. Can download on computer in your office. Also services you can
subscribe to and buy credit reports from them, but chepaer for your
clients to tell them how to download,
ii. Bill requires last 60 days of pay stubs, but possible local
rule could say that single YTD paystub is equivalent of last 60 days
iii. Have a detailed written worksheet, and when they turn it in,
make them sign at the end stating under penalty of perjury that info
they are giving you is true and correct
iv. Make them bring you their bills and checking account records,
and have staff compare those items to make sure consistent with what
they put on their worksheet
v. If debtor self employed and record keeping so bad you can’t
verify their income, can you contract with them to prepare petition
papers to be filed “pro se” and then substitute in after
they file? Duty to check when you sub in??
vi. Put in your contract that if at any time appears that not giving
you all information about what they own and owe, or that not giving
you correct information, that you can keep what they have paid you
and NOT file the bky.
vii. Stop representing debtors
67. ETHICS: Explain how New Law Expressly restricts
what advice debtor’s attorneys can give to their debtor cleint,
and what challenges can be made to this:
a. New Law 11 USC 526(a)(4) makes it a violation of law
for consumer debtor attorney to advise consumer debtor client that
consumer debtor should take on more debt before filing
bankruptcy .
68. ETHICS: Why do consumer debtor attorneys sometimes need to advise
their consumer clients to take on more debt before filing bky?
a. As part of pre-bankruptcy planning
69. ETHICS: Give some common examples of why consumer debtor attorneys
may need to counsel debtor to take on more debt prebankruptcy, as part
of pre-bankruptcy planning:
a.
i. If debtor has stocks, bonds, bank accounts, cash that are NOT
exempt, would counsel debtor as part of prebankruptcy planning to
buy a house or condo and move in so residing there on day file bky,
and using stocks, bonds, bank accounts, cash that are NOT exempt,
as downpayment on residence, and then claiming homestead exemption
on that equity in house.
b. Give an example re how financing a car may be used as a prebankruptcy
planning device under present law:
i. If debtor has a surplus, meaning money left over each month
after subtract reasonable and necessary monthly expenses from monthly
income, and car is paid off, a common pre-bankruptcy planning technique
at present is to counsel debtor to go buy or lease a car on a financed
basis, so have a monthly car payment to eat up the “surplus”,
and by eliminating surplus, debtor will be able to file Ch 7 instead
of Ch 13.
c. Could you as debtor’s attorney give this advice under New
Law?
i. Yes and No. Provision is probably illegal as interference with
First Amendment speech and interference with attorney / client relationship,
but until someone appeals and overturns this section, it will chill
all consumer attorneys from giving this advice.
70. ETHICS: What is penalty on lawyer if you tell client to take on
more debt?
a. Per New Law 11 USC 526( c )(5) the court, on its own motion or
on the motion of the US trustee can enjoin violation of this secdtion
or impose “an appropriate civil penalty” against a person
who violates the section. Note: unclear what this section refers to,
all of 526 or just 526( c )? Will be litigation for sure over this.
71. ETHICS: But what you tell your clients is privileged, how is anyone
going to find out you gave this advice:
a.
i. Never trust your client. The client always has the right to
waive privilege and rat you out, and will likely do so when offered
a deal by creditor in exchange for telling creditor how the client
came to buy house, finance car, etc. right before filing bky
72. ETHICS: If you need to tell your consumer debtor client to take
on more debt to buy a house so they can use the homestead exemption,
or so they can avoid having a surplus, but its personally dangerous
to you the attorney to do so, what is your ethical duty, to yourself
or to your client?
i. In general, lawyers are supposed to put good of client above
the lawyer’s personal good. But I don’t think there can
be an ethical duty to give advice New Law forbids you to give.
73. What challenges can be made to this provision in New Law?
a. This provision can be attacked as being an unconstitutional restriction
on First Amendment, free speech, and it can be attacked as incursion
into attorney client relationship.
74. What is unusual about this restriction:
a. Telling client to take on debt is not like telling client to
commit a crime. Its illegal to commit a crime, and its illegal to
tell a client to commit a crime or to help them commit a crime. But
its not illegal for client to take on debt, so long as client intends
to pay the debt, which if they buy a house or car before filing bky
they usually intend to (and do) pay those debts. What is unusual–actually
unprecedented–about this provision of the New Law is that the
New Law makes it illegal for the lawyer to tell client to do something
that it is legal for the client to do.
b. What will effect of this provision be:
i. Unless and until its appealed and held unenforceable, its certainly
going to chill the ; and how this will make it extremely difficult
to advise consumer debtors to do legal, and much needed pre-bankruptcy
planning
c. ETHICS: Can you give your client a copy of the provision that
says its illegal to tell them to take on more debt, and then tell
them if they had more debt they wouldn’t have to file Chapter
13, but tell them you are not suggesting they do so, because you aren’t
allowed to suggest this; or tell them that if they used their stocks/bonds/money
as a down payment on a house/condo that they could exempt the house
condo, whereas they can’t exempt the stocks/bonds/money, but
do not tell them they should do so, just let them figure it out
i. Yes, but still risky some judge will hold you were giving them
advice
d. ETHICS: What should you have your consumer clients sign on this
topic?
i. Make your consumer clients sign a form stating that you have not
advised them to take on more debt, so they can’t claim later
you told them to take on more debt
75. OMITTED
76. What changes does the New Law make in the bankruptcy
automatic stay? What changes does the New Law make in the
bankruptcy automatic stay?
a. The New Law makes extensive changes to 11 USC §362, the
automatic stay.
i. Automatic Stay will Only last 30 days,
in the new Chapter 7 bankruptcy filed by an individual who has had
an earlier 7, 11 or 13 case dismissed within 1 year of the new filing.
[11 USC § 362(c)(3)(A)]
(1) An exception is made for refiling under another chapter
after a dismissal under the new means test limitations of 707(b).
[§ 362(c)(3)] Under the New Law, you will recall that 707(b)(2)
includes the new provisions presuming an abusive filing if the
debtor could fund a 5-year plan which will pay 25% of his or her
debts or $10,000.
ii. The debtor must move the Bankruptcy Court to extend
the automatic stay beyond the 30 day period.
(1) The Court can extend the 30-day stay if the Court finds
the new case was filed in good faith (which is presumed
subject to rebuttal). [§ 362(c)(3)(B)]
(2) Evidence of bad faith includes:
(a) more than 1 chapter 7, 11 or
13 case in the prior 1 year [§ 362(c)(3)(C)(i)(I)]
(b) a prior case that was dismissed for failure to amend
the petition or other documents w/o substantial excuse [inadvertence
or negligence is not substantial excuse unless that of attorney
and not debtor], provide adequate protection per a court order
or perform the terms of a confirmed plan. [§ 362(c)(3)(C)(i)(II)]
(c) there has not been any substantial change in financial
condition or personal affairs of the debtor since the prior
case and there is no other reason to conclude that the current
case will be successfully concluded to discharge [§ 362(c)(3)(C)(i)(III)]
(d) relief from the automatic stay or an adequate protection
order had been granted in the prior case [§ 362(c)(3)(C)(ii)]
(e) NO bad faith is presumed if a case was dismissed to
allow debtor to enter into a debt repayment plan. [§
362(i)]
iii. For individual chapter 7 debtor who had
more than two chapter 7, 11 or 13 cases
dismissed within 1 year of the new filing the automatic stay does
not go into effect at all upon the filing of the new
bankruptcy case. [11 USC §362(c)(4)(A)(I)].
(1) However, a noticed motion can be made within 30 days after
the new case is filed, requesting that the court order a stay
as to some or all of the creditors, but only if the movant
demonstrates that the latest filing was in good faith
as to the creditors sought to be stayed. [11 USC §362(c)(4)(B)]
(2) However, there is a presumption of bad faith in such
cases unless there is clear and convincing evidence to
the contrary [§ 362(c)(4)(D)]
(3) As with cases of a single prior filing, there is a presumption
of bad faith where:
(a) a prior case was dismissed when amendment required unless
there was a substantial excuse [§ 362(c)(4)(D)(i)(II)]
(b) the financial or personal circumstances of the debtor
did not change substantially since the previous case [§
362(c)(4)(D)(i)(III)] or
(c) As to a particular creditor, the creditor had sought relief
from stay and its motion was either still pending or had been
granted wholly or conditionally. [§ 362(c)(4)(D)(ii)]
b. Another significant change in the automatic stay provisions relates
consumer debts secured by personal property – cars, furniture,
appliances. etc., which is that the automatic stay terminates
as to that consumer property, if:
i. If consumer debtor does not file his/her statement of intentions
within 30 days or the 341(a) meeting [§362(h)(1)(A)] , or
ii. The consumer debtor does not perform his/her statement of
intetntion as to that consumer property, within 30 days afer the
date first set for the 341a meeting. [§362(h)(1)(B)
(1) In addition, per 521(a)(6) if the debtor does not either
reaffirm the secured personal property debt or redeem the property
from the security interess within 45 days after the first meeting
of creditors, then the property ceases to be property of the estae
and the creditor may proceed regarding that property as allowed
by state law (repo and sell it if default), unless the court after
notice and hearing orders adequate protection and orders debtor
to deliver the collateral to the trustee];
iii. Once they stay terminates, the creditor can proceed as allowed
by nonbankruptcy law to repossess and sell the personal property
the consumer has its lien on;
iv. Only the trustee can request stay be extended, by motion filed
before the time periods expire, showing that such personal property
“is of consequential value to the estate”, and the Court
must order adequate protection to the creditor if it grants trustee
the extension of the stay, stay, and the debtor must deliver the
personal property in question to the trustee [§ 362(h)(2)]
c. What used to be Section 362(h), but is now renumbered as Section
362(k), still provides:
“....an individual injured by any willful violation of tha
stay provided by this section shall recover actual damages, inclduing
costs and attorneys’ fees, and in appropriate circumstances,
may recover punitive damages”.
However, subparagraph §362(k)(2) is added by the New Law, to
provide that the damages awardable for violation of the stay shall
be limited to actual damages suffered by the individual debtor, where
a creditor violates the stay regarding consumer goods on which the
creditor had a lien, but does so in a “good faith belief”
that the stay had terminated due to debtor’s failure to file
or perform debtor’s statement of intention.[§ 362(k)(2)]
d. The revisions in the New Law also provide for new exceptions
to the existence of the automatic stay, so
that there will NOT be any automatic stay where under various enumerated
conditions as follows
i. Actions for enforcement of a lien or security interest in real
property will not be stayed as to Debtors
who are ineligible to file bankruptcy under
109(g) because of a 180 or 365 day bar, or because the Court in
a prior case had ordered the debtor was barred from filing a further
bankruptcy. [§ 362(b)(21)]
ii. A residential unlawful detainer proceeding,
incuding eviction, will not be stayed as
to
(1) landlords who obtained a judgment for possession of the
real property before the bankruptcy was
filed [§ 362(b)(22)].
(a) Exception to this: Per §362(l) {that’s “L”}
there is a complicated procedure where a debtor can get a stay
for 30 days after the bankruptcy is filed if the debtor with
the bankruptcy petition files a certification attesting
that nonbankruptcy law allows curing the default, and the debtor
deposits with the clerk of court the rent that will come due
in that 30 days after the bankruptcy is filed, the creditor
can object, etc. [§362(l)(1)-(5)] {that’s (“L”)(1)
-(5)]A further stay will apply upon certification that the monetary
default has been cured. [§ 362(l)(2)] The creditor has
the right to object to the certifications and seek a court determination
of the facts. [§ 362(l)(3)]
(b) A stay will be in effect for only 15 days after the certification
of a landlord that there are pending eviction proceedings relating
to the debtor’s residence that involve the endangerment
of the rental property or the use of controlled substances on
the property, subject to the debtor’s objection to that
certification and a determination by the court of the truth
of the certification. [§ 362(b)(23), (m)]
iii. In the successive bankruptcy situation, where a there will
be no automatic stay for two years , as
to any creditor whose claim is secured by real property and who
obtained an order in an earlier bankruptcy case that found, under
Section 362(d)(4), that the earlier bankruptcy was part of a scheme
to delay, hinder and defraud creditors that involved the transfer
all or part of the secured real property without the consent of
the court or the secured creditor , or which involved multiple bankruptcies
affecting that same real property. [§ 362(b)(20)]
(1) The new law also provides that a debtor may seek relief
from the no automatic stay for two years
on account of changed circumstances or other good cause. [§
362(d)(4)]
iv. The New Law clarifies that the automatic stay does
not apply to the following family law proceedings:
(1) child custody or child visitation matters [§ 362(b)(2)(A)(iii)]
(2) to the dissolution of a marriage – except with respect
to the division of the marital property [§ 362(b)(2)(A)(iv)]
(3) to civil actions relating to domestic violence. [§
362(b)(2)(A)(v)]
Note: The New Law does not differentiate between proceedings
for restraining orders and civil actions for damages. Expect litigation
about this ambiguity.
(4) The automatic stay also does not apply to garnishments for
child or spousal support [§ 362(b)(2)(B)]
(5) Similarly, the child support provisions in the Social Security
Act are not subject to the automatic stay, including both:
(a) reporting of overdue child support obligations [§
362(b)(2)(E)] and
(b) withholding of tax refunds for child support. [§ 362(b)(2)(F)]
(c) enforcement of medial obligations [§ 362(b)(2)(G)]
v. Filing a “small business bankruptcy is mandatory under
the New Law if the debtor falls within the definition of “small
business debtor”. The New Law modifies Section 362 so that
there is no stay in successive small business
bankruptcy cases as follows: no stay if debtors had a Small Business
Case bankruptcy pending at the time of the bankruptcy, that had
been dismissed within the prior 2 years or had a chapter 11 plan
confirmed within the prior 2 years, then no stay will go into effect
upon filing of the new case. Except: the automatic stay will apply
if
(1) the new case is an involuntary bankruptcy or
(2) the debtor establishes that the petition resulted from circumstances
that were beyond debtor’s control and not reasonably foreseeable
at the time of the prior bankruptcy or
(3) that it is more likely than not that the court will confirm
a feasible, non-liquidating plan within a reasonable time. [§
362(n)].
vi. The New Law clarifies the no stay
exception for ad valorem property taxes also applies to special
assessments on real property [§ 362(b)(18)]
vii. The New Law also clarifies that there is no stay
regarding suspension or restriction of a driver’s license.
viii. The automatic stay does not apply to a wage withholding
order or agreement where debtor, as employer, which
is withholding for the benefit of a pension, profit sharing
or similar employee benefit plan. [§362(b)(19)]
ix. There is No stay regarding proceeding
with an unlawful detainer action if the debtor failed
to pay rent after filing. 11 U.S.C. §362
x. There is no stay regarding transfers that are not avoidable
by a trustee per 11 USC §544 and 549 (whatever that means)
[§ 362(b)(24)]
xi. There is no stay regarding various non-criminal
government actions:
(1) SEC investigation or enforcement actions [§ 362(b)(25)]
(2) an action to exclude the debtor from the medicare or other
health care program. [§ 362(b)(28)]
(3) governmental setoff of an income tax refund. [§ 362(b)(26)]
xii. Master netting agreements not subject to stay [§ 362(b)(27)]
(Master netting agreement is defined in § 101(38)).
(Section 9 of 10)
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